1 00:02:32,309 --> 00:02:28,070 atlantis houston to our favorite crew 2 00:02:35,509 --> 00:02:33,990 and my favorite crew says good morning 3 00:02:37,430 --> 00:02:35,519 back thanks a lot for the wake up and 4 00:02:55,030 --> 00:02:37,440 thanks for allison for the song and the 5 00:02:58,390 --> 00:02:56,949 brent we're uh 6 00:03:02,710 --> 00:02:58,400 looking at both you there on the flight 7 00:04:32,550 --> 00:03:03,830 okay if it's okay we'll bring them on 8 00:04:35,670 --> 00:04:33,749 i mean if you want we can power them 9 00:04:36,790 --> 00:04:35,680 down and then uh death cream and power 10 00:04:40,310 --> 00:04:36,800 back up but if we're not going to take 11 00:04:45,670 --> 00:04:43,189 it doesn't seem necessary 12 00:04:46,950 --> 00:04:45,680 but we copy we're looking to see 13 00:04:49,230 --> 00:04:46,960 that the gps 14 00:05:07,029 --> 00:04:49,240 information overload the disk is has 15 00:05:10,790 --> 00:05:09,350 okay we copy we're just puzzling over 16 00:05:12,310 --> 00:05:10,800 your call and 17 00:05:14,390 --> 00:05:12,320 wanted to make sure that we're 18 00:05:16,390 --> 00:05:14,400 configured properly for the gps in this 19 00:05:19,749 --> 00:05:16,400 troubleshoot procedure that's timeline a 20 00:05:21,189 --> 00:05:19,759 little before 2300. 21 00:05:32,390 --> 00:05:21,199 yeah i'll bring 22 00:05:34,870 --> 00:05:33,990 i guess 23 00:05:37,110 --> 00:05:34,880 hello 24 00:05:40,310 --> 00:05:37,120 terry chris how are you all doing over 25 00:05:41,909 --> 00:05:40,320 in the chamber this is john blaha 26 00:05:43,749 --> 00:05:41,919 we have you loud and clear john thanks 27 00:05:45,670 --> 00:05:43,759 for the call we also can see you on the 28 00:05:48,390 --> 00:05:45,680 monitor in front of us 29 00:05:50,150 --> 00:05:48,400 you asked me what did i think about the 30 00:05:52,390 --> 00:05:50,160 how did that go with the bps and the 31 00:05:56,070 --> 00:05:52,400 cartilage is that correct 32 00:06:00,870 --> 00:05:58,310 okay uh well first of all i'll tell you 33 00:06:03,029 --> 00:06:00,880 what uh i think that experiment in a 34 00:06:05,430 --> 00:06:03,039 broad context 35 00:06:06,710 --> 00:06:05,440 really shows the value of long duration 36 00:06:08,950 --> 00:06:06,720 space flight 37 00:06:10,469 --> 00:06:08,960 uh well let me explain 38 00:06:12,629 --> 00:06:10,479 the people on the ground had done a 39 00:06:15,430 --> 00:06:12,639 fantastic job designing it and 40 00:06:18,070 --> 00:06:15,440 everything and uh had we tested it on 41 00:06:19,510 --> 00:06:18,080 the shuttle uh we would have flown a two 42 00:06:22,469 --> 00:06:19,520 or three week flight and we would have 43 00:06:23,430 --> 00:06:22,479 landed and thought everything was just 44 00:06:25,749 --> 00:06:23,440 great 45 00:06:27,749 --> 00:06:25,759 as it turns out about four weeks into 46 00:06:30,390 --> 00:06:27,759 the flight 47 00:06:32,950 --> 00:06:30,400 the air that had been 48 00:06:33,909 --> 00:06:32,960 processing when we mixed media in the 49 00:06:36,150 --> 00:06:33,919 bag 50 00:06:37,990 --> 00:06:36,160 there was no air and there's special 51 00:06:40,309 --> 00:06:38,000 water that i had brought up and when i 52 00:06:42,390 --> 00:06:40,319 mixed that water with the media just 53 00:06:43,670 --> 00:06:42,400 like and then i noticed all fluids do it 54 00:06:45,830 --> 00:06:43,680 in space 55 00:06:46,790 --> 00:06:45,840 it just seems to create bubbles 56 00:06:49,430 --> 00:06:46,800 and 57 00:06:51,510 --> 00:06:49,440 over a period of uh 58 00:06:53,510 --> 00:06:51,520 four weeks it took that long for the 59 00:06:55,909 --> 00:06:53,520 bubble to propagate through the whole 60 00:06:57,670 --> 00:06:55,919 system and finally get into the vessel 61 00:07:00,230 --> 00:06:57,680 and when i saw the bubbles first in the 62 00:07:02,469 --> 00:07:00,240 vessel i was really alarmed and of 63 00:07:03,990 --> 00:07:02,479 course everybody on the ground was 64 00:07:05,589 --> 00:07:04,000 but then the people on the ground as 65 00:07:07,510 --> 00:07:05,599 usual came up with all sorts of 66 00:07:09,510 --> 00:07:07,520 procedures 67 00:07:11,749 --> 00:07:09,520 and then we opened up the box and tried 68 00:07:13,589 --> 00:07:11,759 to evaluate the system and 69 00:07:17,830 --> 00:07:13,599 the bottom line is 70 00:07:19,430 --> 00:07:17,840 we ended up having to manually feed the 71 00:07:22,309 --> 00:07:19,440 flash media 72 00:07:25,110 --> 00:07:22,319 and then we'd make our samples at the 73 00:07:28,390 --> 00:07:25,120 end of a period right before we i mixed 74 00:07:33,430 --> 00:07:30,790 so we could tell the health of the media 75 00:07:35,589 --> 00:07:33,440 so uh no that was a very 76 00:07:37,990 --> 00:07:35,599 good experiment as it turns out i think 77 00:07:39,510 --> 00:07:38,000 it was very successful and the cartilage 78 00:07:41,589 --> 00:07:39,520 continued to grow and you know as 79 00:07:43,510 --> 00:07:41,599 cartilage from a cow's knee 80 00:07:46,150 --> 00:07:43,520 and uh but we just had to get the human 81 00:07:48,070 --> 00:07:46,160 being involved so that experiment as it 82 00:07:50,150 --> 00:07:48,080 turns out i know it wasn't intended it 83 00:07:53,589 --> 00:07:50,160 showed the value of long-duration space 84 00:07:55,950 --> 00:07:53,599 flight as well as human involvement 85 00:07:58,790 --> 00:07:55,960 okay john this is fred smith again uh 86 00:08:00,950 --> 00:07:58,800 congratulations congratulations to you 87 00:08:04,629 --> 00:08:00,960 my question is dealing more with on the 88 00:08:07,430 --> 00:08:04,639 psychological aspects of long duration 89 00:08:09,830 --> 00:08:07,440 we're also doing some evaluation 90 00:08:12,150 --> 00:08:09,840 psychological evaluations for our 91 00:08:14,390 --> 00:08:12,160 tests here i was wondering were there 92 00:08:15,430 --> 00:08:14,400 any some things that you found helpful 93 00:08:17,670 --> 00:08:15,440 in uh 94 00:08:20,309 --> 00:08:17,680 making your stay more enjoyable for your 95 00:08:22,710 --> 00:08:20,319 for the duration of your mission 96 00:08:25,270 --> 00:08:22,720 on mirror 97 00:08:27,589 --> 00:08:25,280 yes i understand you know you're talking 98 00:08:30,550 --> 00:08:27,599 about something now that i think is uh 99 00:08:33,190 --> 00:08:30,560 crucial uh to a uh 100 00:08:35,110 --> 00:08:33,200 long duration flight be it a flight on a 101 00:08:38,149 --> 00:08:35,120 space station with an international crew 102 00:08:39,110 --> 00:08:38,159 and i stress that international crew or 103 00:08:42,709 --> 00:08:39,120 a 104 00:08:45,110 --> 00:08:42,719 crew 105 00:08:47,430 --> 00:08:45,120 when you put people together who are 106 00:08:50,630 --> 00:08:47,440 from different cultures 107 00:08:53,990 --> 00:08:50,640 cultures and who have different 108 00:08:57,269 --> 00:08:54,000 language as their primary language 109 00:08:59,829 --> 00:08:57,279 you even add to the psychological 110 00:09:01,750 --> 00:08:59,839 problem for example the four of you 111 00:09:03,910 --> 00:09:01,760 will or will not experience there in 112 00:09:04,790 --> 00:09:03,920 your laboratory on the ground and in 113 00:09:07,110 --> 00:09:04,800 fact 114 00:09:09,670 --> 00:09:07,120 i think you could think of next time you 115 00:09:11,910 --> 00:09:09,680 do something like this try and put 116 00:09:13,030 --> 00:09:11,920 some people from different nationalities 117 00:09:14,230 --> 00:09:13,040 together 118 00:09:16,550 --> 00:09:14,240 and 119 00:09:18,710 --> 00:09:16,560 who maybe don't speak the common 120 00:09:20,949 --> 00:09:18,720 language real well 121 00:09:23,269 --> 00:09:20,959 because that introduces i think another 122 00:09:25,590 --> 00:09:23,279 element of psychological 123 00:09:27,430 --> 00:09:25,600 pressure and stress 124 00:09:29,910 --> 00:09:27,440 and in my case 125 00:09:31,190 --> 00:09:29,920 i had trained with two russian cosmonaut 126 00:09:33,350 --> 00:09:31,200 crews 127 00:09:35,910 --> 00:09:33,360 in star city for a year and a half and 128 00:09:37,350 --> 00:09:35,920 then unfortunately a week before their 129 00:09:39,670 --> 00:09:37,360 launch 130 00:09:41,590 --> 00:09:39,680 one of the people had a heart problem 131 00:09:44,230 --> 00:09:41,600 unfortunately it's not bad and he's 132 00:09:46,470 --> 00:09:44,240 happy now but uh so they had to change 133 00:09:49,350 --> 00:09:46,480 the crew so i flew with a completely 134 00:09:50,389 --> 00:09:49,360 different two russians than i had even 135 00:09:53,590 --> 00:09:50,399 trained with 136 00:09:56,470 --> 00:09:53,600 which even added more to i think uh some 137 00:09:58,150 --> 00:09:56,480 stress in the first month of the fight 138 00:10:00,389 --> 00:09:58,160 so but you're on to something that's 139 00:10:02,470 --> 00:10:00,399 very very important uh 140 00:10:04,070 --> 00:10:02,480 uh but i think there are many parameters 141 00:10:05,750 --> 00:10:04,080 and we really need to think about it in 142 00:10:07,350 --> 00:10:05,760 the future with our international space 143 00:10:10,310 --> 00:10:07,360 station for example we have two 144 00:10:12,630 --> 00:10:10,320 americans two russians 145 00:10:15,829 --> 00:10:12,640 a european and a uh 146 00:10:16,550 --> 00:10:15,839 a person from say japan uh the people 147 00:10:17,269 --> 00:10:16,560 who 148 00:10:19,350 --> 00:10:17,279 are 149 00:10:21,750 --> 00:10:19,360 alone by themselves and don't have a 150 00:10:23,350 --> 00:10:21,760 friend from their own culture i think 151 00:10:24,790 --> 00:10:23,360 are going to even have a little more 152 00:10:26,710 --> 00:10:24,800 special kind of problem that we need to 153 00:10:29,269 --> 00:10:26,720 pay attention to 154 00:10:31,269 --> 00:10:29,279 yes i was wondering if you had any uh 155 00:10:32,389 --> 00:10:31,279 experiences or interactions with with 156 00:10:34,230 --> 00:10:32,399 the mere 157 00:10:38,550 --> 00:10:34,240 uh life support systems 158 00:10:41,590 --> 00:10:39,829 absolutely 159 00:10:45,030 --> 00:10:41,600 you know you're right on it those life 160 00:10:47,110 --> 00:10:45,040 support systems are very important and 161 00:10:49,190 --> 00:10:47,120 what i i would say a couple of things on 162 00:10:51,910 --> 00:10:49,200 that that i noticed working with my two 163 00:10:53,110 --> 00:10:51,920 russian colleagues valerie and sasha 164 00:10:54,710 --> 00:10:53,120 first of all 165 00:10:57,269 --> 00:10:54,720 uh the crew 166 00:11:00,150 --> 00:10:57,279 probably needs to know those systems at 167 00:11:02,870 --> 00:11:00,160 a deeper level than i remember i knew 168 00:11:05,030 --> 00:11:02,880 the ecosystems here on the shuttle 169 00:11:06,949 --> 00:11:05,040 uh when you're able to clean a vehicle 170 00:11:08,870 --> 00:11:06,959 up on the ground as we do and then go 171 00:11:10,630 --> 00:11:08,880 into orbit and stay for two weeks and 172 00:11:13,030 --> 00:11:10,640 come home and clean it up again that's 173 00:11:14,710 --> 00:11:13,040 one kind of level of knowledge 174 00:11:17,590 --> 00:11:14,720 if you're going to go up there 175 00:11:19,670 --> 00:11:17,600 on our new space station 176 00:11:22,949 --> 00:11:19,680 you need to go to a deeper level of 177 00:11:25,030 --> 00:11:22,959 knowledge and we need to make sure we 178 00:11:28,470 --> 00:11:25,040 have a couple of people trained on that 179 00:11:30,470 --> 00:11:28,480 new international space station uh into 180 00:11:32,949 --> 00:11:30,480 that deeper level of knowledge because 181 00:11:35,590 --> 00:11:32,959 when something goes wrong maybe the 182 00:11:37,030 --> 00:11:35,600 spare part isn't there but if you have 183 00:11:38,150 --> 00:11:37,040 people who are trying to go into the 184 00:11:39,030 --> 00:11:38,160 boxes 185 00:11:41,350 --> 00:11:39,040 and 186 00:11:42,949 --> 00:11:41,360 take a small component out that's broken 187 00:11:45,750 --> 00:11:42,959 and actually fix it 188 00:11:47,269 --> 00:11:45,760 and then put it back in the box 189 00:11:49,110 --> 00:11:47,279 that's the type of training we're going 190 00:11:50,790 --> 00:11:49,120 to have to do and i saw a lot of that 191 00:11:53,670 --> 00:11:50,800 during my flight 192 00:11:53,680 --> 00:11:59,350 kitchen lettuce for transfer 193 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:05,590 go ahead john 194 00:12:10,790 --> 00:12:08,710 baha brought with him some mcds 195 00:12:13,910 --> 00:12:10,800 that needed to be refrigerated 196 00:12:16,230 --> 00:12:13,920 and we put them in ptcu one 197 00:12:18,550 --> 00:12:16,240 which is a five degree c 198 00:12:20,310 --> 00:12:18,560 container uh they're not supposed to be 199 00:12:21,910 --> 00:12:20,320 frozen so we didn't put them in leslie 200 00:12:23,750 --> 00:12:21,920 we just want to make sure that you and 201 00:12:29,750 --> 00:12:23,760 the biorack folks know that that's where 202 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:34,069 we see them and concur thanks 203 00:12:34,079 --> 00:12:40,949 thanks 204 00:12:45,190 --> 00:12:43,190 houston for cmrs we have a question do 205 00:12:46,790 --> 00:12:45,200 you want all of our little data runs 206 00:12:48,629 --> 00:12:46,800 here with only one 207 00:12:58,310 --> 00:12:48,639 cmo or are we allowed to use two people 208 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,550 marcia we'd like to use two if possible 209 00:13:09,030 --> 00:13:04,629 okay 210 00:13:10,629 --> 00:13:09,040 course a record time of 55 seconds of 211 00:13:31,670 --> 00:13:10,639 getting john restrained and now we'll do 212 00:13:35,269 --> 00:13:34,389 space have atlantis fo12 step 12 is 213 00:14:20,389 --> 00:13:35,279 complete 214 00:14:25,670 --> 00:14:23,030 lannis houston very impressive we're one